I finally upgraded the LAN between my servers from 1Gb Ethernet to 10Gb Ethernet.

I'd hestitated before because of the 10GBase-T switches available were expensive (I wasn't interested in going down the SFP+ route, I wanted to use CAT6(a) cabling) - anyway, MikroTik has a nice 4(+1) port 10GBaseT switch for under $200:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPR8KLV6

I got a couple Intel (X540-T1) NICs for $70 each, and cheap CAT6A cables, and voila: 10Gbits!

My Internet speed is still just 640/40Mb, but I have to move large files (usually video) between systems often enough that this is a huge time saver. And I'm hoping the lower latency will help with my Samba/SMB share issues (lost lock/unlock requests) that happen about once a day.
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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Digital Man to All on Sat Feb 01 2025 02:21 pm

Howdy,

I finally upgraded the LAN between my servers from 1Gb Ethernet to 10Gb Ethernet.
CAT6(a) cabling) - anyway, MikroTik has a nice 4(+1) port 10GBaseT switch for under $200:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPR8KLV6

Ahh, must be nice :)

I'm a fan of MikroTik gear and use it hear myself. I'm still a common man with 1GB, but I'm sure I'll upgrade oneday...



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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun Feb 02 2025 11:22 am

Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Digital Man to All on Sat Feb 01 2025 02:21 pm

Howdy,

I finally upgraded the LAN between my servers from 1Gb Ethernet to 10Gb Ethernet.
CAT6(a) cabling) - anyway, MikroTik has a nice 4(+1) port 10GBaseT switch for under $200:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPR8KLV6

Ahh, must be nice :)

I'm a fan of MikroTik gear and use it hear myself. I'm still a common man with 1GB, but I'm sure I'll upgrade oneday...

Yeah, I had a big network file copy/move recently that really brought down my normal BBS/server operations and that motivated me to count the cost again (I was expecting to at least move up to 2.5 or 5Gb) - I was pleasantly surprised to see the 10GBase-T switch prices have come down to Earth and the MikroTik does appear to be a quality piece of gear even though it's consumer grade.

I've bought so much tech gear over the past 40 years that ends up worthless and in a landfill (or my closet, I'm slow to throw out stuff I think I might use again one day), I try to buy new tech only when prices have come down considerably.
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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Digital Man to deon on Sat Feb 01 2025 05:55 pm

Howdy,

I've bought so much tech gear over the past 40 years that ends up worthless and in a landfill (or my closet, I'm slow to throw out stuff I think I might use again one day), I try to buy new tech only when prices have come down considerably.

Yeah, I think I'm in the same boat. Except sometimes I cant help myself.

I've often listed old stuff on ebay (when ebay was good), for $1 along with a message that was along the lines of "this works, and didnt want to throw it in the bin, hoping it will get a new home".

When ebay was good, I'd sometimes get a couple $100 dollars for stuff that was just sitting in a box. Not sure many use ebay these (I know I dont as much - and my attempts to empty the box havent even got the $1 now).

My new toy I'm waiting on is a few CM5 boards to go into my DeskPi Super6C that I've managed to score (hence my keeness to get SBBS running on 64 bit arm).

I also have an Radxa X4 coming (Pi sized but N100 processor), which might be SBBS home if arm64 doesnt work out...


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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun Feb 02 2025 01:32 pm

My new toy I'm waiting on is a few CM5 boards to go into my DeskPi Super6C that I've managed to score (hence my keeness to get SBBS running on 64 bit arm).

I also have an Radxa X4 coming (Pi sized but N100 processor), which might be SBBS home if arm64 doesnt work out...

I'm sure if you hang-out in #synchronet (irc.synchro.net) you'll find solutions to your SBBS on arm64 worries/issues.
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Hello Digital Man!

I've bought so much tech gear over the past 40 years that ends up worthless and in a landfill (or my closet, I'm slow to throw out stuff I think I might use again one day), [...]

The closet still full? Is it worth still keeping the old
stuff?


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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Digital Man to All on Sat Feb 01 2025 02:21 pm

I'd hestitated before because of the 10GBase-T switches available were expensive (I wasn't interested in going down the SFP+ route, I wanted to use CAT6(a) cabling) - anyway, MikroTik has a nice 4(+1) port 10GBaseT switch for under $200:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPR8KLV6

My Internet speed is still just 640/40Mb, but I have to move large files (usually video) between systems often enough that this is a huge time saver. And I'm hoping the lower latency will help with my Samba/SMB share issues (lost lock/unlock requests) that happen about once a day.

I hadn't really looked into 10 gigabit equipment much yet.. I do have a couple PCs that I copy files between sometimes, but I feel like 1 gigabit is still enough for me. Maybe one reason is that although I have SSDs in both computers, I also have a spinning hard drive in each computer (for storage) as well, as spinning drives still seem to be less expensive for storage - and I thought a gigabit network connection would be about as fast as I could copy files between PCs with a couple of spinning hard drives.

That 10 gigabit switch is more expensive than my router cost.. At the price point, I might wait a bit before upgrading to 10 gigabit. Also, I'd have to buy 10 gigabit ethernet cards for both PCs, since their onboard ethernet is 1 gigabit.

Nightfox

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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Digital Man to All on Sat Feb 01 2025 14:21:03

I'd hestitated before because of the 10GBase-T switches available were expensive (I wasn't interested in going down the SFP+ route, I wanted to use CAT6(a) cabling) - anyway, MikroTik has a nice 4(+1) port 10GBaseT switch for under $200:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPR8KLV6

I have one of those here. It works like a charm. Mikrotik make a very good and inexpensive switch, among other things.
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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Mickey to Digital Man on Sun Feb 02 2025 18:25:03

Hello to everyone,

I was wondering if we can install MSDOS or any other system booting the PC from floppy images with a Gotek or a Gotek clone (Floppy Emulator)? It will be a life changer. Some of you have some experience with that?

Thank you so much, in advance! :0)
All the best, Juan


Regards,
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Re: Booting a MSDOS install from a GOTEK
By: Lordwoodoo to All on Wed Feb 05 2025 03:48 pm

I was wondering if we can install MS
or any other system booting the PC f
floppy images with a Gotek or a Gote
clone (Floppy Emulator)? It will be

Yeah, the system doesn't see it any
different from a real floppy drive with
a disk in it.

I'm using a Gotek in my Amiga. Also
works fine on a PC with DOS, though.

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Re: Booting a MSDOS install from a
By: phigan to Lordwoodoo on Wed Feb 05 2025 19:24:28

Yeah, the system doesn't see it any
different from a real floppy drive with
a disk in it.
I'm using a Gotek in my Amiga. Also
works fine on a PC with DOS, though.

Thank you ey much for your reply! :0)

For me this possibility change a lot of things. A time saving and the possibility of organizing things really cool for experiments.
Today Floppy disks price is like more than 30 euros for a box of 10. I've read somewhere, I don't remember where, thats 3.5 floppy disks Mondial production have stopped, they are now only selling old stocks. I can't imagine that's is true. But it explains the high price of only 10 floppies.. Thinking it, better to preserve the ones I have. Buy some in lots when possible (even used). And for the first time try the Gotek floppy emaulator who like really cool.

I will buy one on the next days. Thanks to confirm this is possible to boot installs with it! Thats great! :0)
I'm still not fixed by what model to buy, but I'm decided!


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Digital Man wrote to All <=-

I finally upgraded the LAN between my servers from 1Gb Ethernet to 10Gb Ethernet.

I'd hestitated before because of the 10GBase-T switches available were expensive (I wasn't interested in going down the SFP+ route, I wanted
to use CAT6(a) cabling) - anyway, MikroTik has a nice 4(+1) port
10GBaseT switch for under $200: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPR8KLV6

I got a couple Intel (X540-T1) NICs for $70 each, and cheap CAT6A
cables, and voila: 10Gbits!

My Internet speed is still just 640/40Mb, but I have to move large
files (usually video) between systems often enough that this is a huge time saver. And I'm hoping the lower latency will help with my
Samba/SMB share issues (lost lock/unlock requests) that happen about
once a day. --
digital man (rob)

Hells bells man... I'm still living in the world of a 100 Mb/s LAN! Now, at work I deal with 10 Gb and 25 Gb connections (generally 10 Gb back end and 25 Gb front end).... For me, here at home, 100 Mb is "just fine." I don't transfer a lot of video from one location to another an the 100 Mb backbone supports any streaming I do locally with no issues. But still, I'll bet you get yourself a little swell of pride to announce your home LAN is 10 Gb. ;)


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deon wrote to Digital Man <=-

Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "afforadable"
By: Digital Man to deon on Sat Feb 01 2025 05:55 pm

I've often listed old stuff on ebay (when ebay was good), for $1 along with a message that was along the lines of "this works, and didnt want
to throw it in the bin, hoping it will get a new home".

When ebay was good, I'd sometimes get a couple $100 dollars for stuff
that was just sitting in a box. Not sure many use ebay these (I know I dont as much - and my attempts to empty the box havent even got the $1 now).

I'm sure not many of us remember those days. eBay used to be one of my go-to's when it game to shopping for affordable electronics, particularly amateur radio equipment. You could trust the sellers because they were pretty much all hobbyists who knew the value of reputation. It was also entirely an auction site which meant the buyers set the price. This was before the days of even "buy it now." Heck... I promised my buddy if he got his ham ticket I'd set him up with a 2 meter HT and base setup. Bought the radios for less than $50. Granted they were crystal controlled and I had to buy crystals, but he had a Wilson HT and a mobile mounted to a power supply/speaker set up. Bought crystal pairs to hit all the local repeaters and two simplex frequencies.

Damn... I digress.... Suffice it to say I logged into eBay a couple of weeks ago and was surprised my account was still active. It's been a couple of years. It's definitely turned into a big money grab. Gone are the days of there actually being an eBay community where you knew and trusted most of the buyers and sellers....



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Weatherman wrote to Digital Man <=-

Hells bells man... I'm still living in the world of a 100 Mb/s LAN!
Now, at work I deal with 10 Gb and 25 Gb connections (generally 10 Gb
back end and 25 Gb front end).... For me, here at home, 100 Mb is
"just fine."

I'm in a position at work where I'm going to be inheriting an IT
infrastructure for a group of 300 employees in 10 offices. Looking at
what I'm inheriting, I'm finding more and more offices running on cable
connections - typically 300/20 connections.

This. Will. Not. Do. Especially when I'm running an SDWAN over these
links and trying to synchronize files - and I'm going into the office
sometimes with the express need of uploading ISOs and huge files to
other sites!

I think 600/600 is a nice starting point.

At home, I'm still stuck on cable and really need to bite the bullet
and go fiber. I'd love to back up 3TB of data on my NAS to the cloud,
but at 600/20 with bandwidth caps, I'd be insane to do so.

Once I go fiber, maybe I'll make use of my teamed 1GB ethernet links. :)





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Weatherman wrote to deon <=-

Damn... I digress.... Suffice it to say I logged into eBay a couple of weeks ago and was surprised my account was still active. It's been a couple of years. It's definitely turned into a big money grab. Gone
are the days of there actually being an eBay community where you knew
and trusted most of the buyers and sellers....

I used to work there, and we made a big deal about some guy who
surpassed 1,000,000 feedback, probably selling rubber chickens from
china. I used it a lot in the film camera era and you would get to know
the sellers. Many of them advertised on web fora where you'd been
talking for some time and gotten to know them.



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Weatherman wrote to Digital Man <=-

Hells bells man... I'm still living in the world of a 100 Mb/s LAN!
Now, at work I deal with 10 Gb and 25 Gb connections (generally 10 Gb
back end and 25 Gb front end).... For me, here at home, 100 Mb is
"just fine." I don't transfer a lot of video from one location to
another an the 100 Mb backbone supports any streaming I do locally with
no issues. But still, I'll bet you get yourself a little swell of
pride to announce your home LAN is 10 Gb. ;)

Boy, does this sound familiar, and I thought I was the only one.
I'm still 100Mb across the board with one 10Mb segment for some of my older machines. 100Mb is "fine" for me based on what I do around the house, but I wouldn't be surprised, if I really did some digging, if I wasn't even getting that.
My cables are so ancient that I wouldn't be surprised if I was having a bunch of dropped packets & overruns



Now I think about it, if I tried moving to 1 or 10Gb, I'd end up taking the network down because my underspec'd file server couldn't take the load with spinning rust and ZFS. I'm starting to depress myself with the amount of upgrades needed here, it seems


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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: Weatherman to Digital Man on Sat Feb 08 2025 02:11 am

I noticed the subject of your reply was truncated (at 25 chars, I assume). This suggests you don't have a HEADERS.DAT file in your REP packets set to VERT. Can you double-check your settings against
https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dove-net#step_4configure_your_qwknet_hub
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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: Weatherman to Digital Man on Sat Feb 08 2025 02:11 am

Hells bells man... I'm still living in the world of a 100 Mb/s LAN! Now, at work I deal with 10 Gb and 25 Gb connections (generally 10 Gb back end and 25 Gb front end).... For me, here at home, 100 Mb is "just fine." I

I thought 1 gigabit was fairly common/standard now on most computers, routers, switches, and such.. I have a couple of PCs and a router, all which have 1 gigabit ethernet onboard. Are you using fairly old equipment? I think the only things I have these days that only support 100 megabit ethernet are a couple of streaming devices (a Roku Ultra, a Nvidia Shield Pro), and a USB Ethernet adapter I use for a Nintendo Wii), and those are things that arguably would be fine with 100 megabit.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Weatherman on Sat Feb 08 2025 09:06 am

At home, I'm still stuck on cable and really need to bite the bullet and go fiber. I'd love to back up 3TB of data on my NAS to the cloud, but at 600/20 with bandwidth caps, I'd be insane to do so.

Where I am, fiber isn't any more expensive than cable internet, and in some cases, it can be cheaper. IMO it's not really a hard decision if you have access to fiber internet service.

Nightfox

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Hey Nightfox!

On Sun, Feb 09 2025 23:38:32 -0600, you wrote:

Where I am, fiber isn't any more expensive than cable internet, and
in some cases, it can be cheaper. IMO it's not really a hard
decision if you have access to fiber internet service.

Except if the provider is completely unreliable in comparison to the cable provider (which would be the case in my area).

At the moment, I don't think any fiber providers are in Wisconsin. Otherwise we only have a couple choices. One of them is AT&T U-Verse, in which their service complete garbage. I've had Spectrum (formerly Time Warner Cable) for 20+ years, and their service has always been rock solid. I have their highest tier service at 1Gbps down, 30Mbps up.. which is the best I can get around here.

If Verizon's Fios ever shows up in these parts, I may check it out. Otherwise, DSL is out of the question for me. I'll just stick with what I have.

Regards,
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Re: Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Feb 09 2025 03:38 pm

Where I am, fiber isn't any more expensive than cable internet, and in some cases, it can be cheaper. IMO it's not really a hard decision if you have access to fiber internet service.

The problem was landline phone service and local TV. I'm happy using VOIP.ms for SIP trunking/service, and am looking into IPTV for local channels. The rest we'll stream.

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Re: Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Feb 09 2025 07:48 pm

Where I am, fiber isn't any more expensive than cable internet, and in some
cases, it can be cheaper. IMO it's not really a hard decision if you have
access to fiber internet service.

The problem was landline phone service and local TV. I'm happy using VOIP.ms for SIP trunking/service, and am looking into IPTV for local channels. The rest we'll stream.

Ah. I thought some fiber ISPs had a TV package too, but I know some don't.

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Ah. I thought some fiber ISPs had a TV package too, but I know some don't.

AT&T does DISH TV, all I really need are a couple of local channels. I'd
rather stream everything else.



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Re: Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon Feb 10 2025 06:36 am

AT&T does DISH TV, all I really need are a couple of local channels. I'd rather stream everything else.

Do you have good over-the-air reception where you live?

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Do you have good over-the-air reception where you live?

None, with an amplified indoor antenna. I have the coast range of
mountains between me and most of the TV stations.



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Digital Man wrote to Weatherman <=-

I noticed the subject of your reply was truncated (at 25 chars, I
assume). This suggests you don't have a HEADERS.DAT file in your REP packets set to VERT. Can you double-check your settings against https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dove-net#step_4configure_your_qwknet_hub
? --
digital man (rob)

Rob,
I will do that. Not tonight, as I've enjoyed some Tullamore Dew and Heinekins, but will definitely check it out and fix it. Thanks for pointing it out!




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Nightfox wrote to Weatherman <=-

Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: Weatherman to Digital Man on Sat Feb 08 2025 02:11 am

I thought 1 gigabit was fairly common/standard now on most computers, routers, switches, and such.. I have a couple of PCs and a router, all which have 1 gigabit ethernet onboard. Are you using fairly old equipment? I think the only things I have these days that only support
100 megabit ethernet are a couple of streaming devices (a Roku Ultra, a Nvidia Shield Pro), and a USB Ethernet adapter I use for a Nintendo
Wii), and those are things that arguably would be fine with 100
megabit.

Nightfox

I'm using older 100 Mb/s switches. I have some 1 G/s switches here, but they're still in the box. My uplink is only in the 50-100 Mb/s range so I see no need to break out gigabit switches. Even most of my computers are only capable of 100 Mb/s anyway. I imagine if I had gigabit internet service, hell even 300 Mb/s service I'd be breaking out the 1G stuff, but for what I have on my uplink, 100 Mb/s LAN is more than enough.

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Re: 10Gb Ethernet is now "aff
By: Weatherman to Nightfox on Sat Feb 15 2025 12:28 am

I'm using older 100 Mb/s switches. I have some 1 G/s switches here, but they're still in the box. My uplink is only in the 50-100 Mb/s range so I see no need to break out gigabit switches. Even most of my computers are only capable of 100 Mb/s anyway. I imagine if I had gigabit internet service, hell even 300 Mb/s service I'd be breaking out the 1G stuff, but for what I have on my uplink, 100 Mb/s LAN is more than enough.

It's not just about your internet speed - If you copy files or other data between computers in your home network, it can be good to have the highest speed possible. But if your computers aren't capable, then I suppose it doesn't make much difference.

Nightfox

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I've bought so much tech gear over the past 40 years that ends up worthless and in a landfill (or my closet, I'm slow to throw out stuff I think I might use again one day), I try to buy new tech only when prices have come down considerably.

I try not to buy new computers unless I absolutely need it. This box
from 2018 will likely be around for another 2 years.


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